Edited Francesco Scialpi (May 27, 2015 06:19:48 AM)
Originally posted by Mark Mc Govern:
To me it's much like AP attacks with a creature with intimidate, and NAP says "damn, I can't block with my ". Say nothing, and move along.
Edited Jasper König (May 27, 2015 11:22:48 AM)
Originally posted by Jasper König:
So, please tell me, how is Player B not breaking the rules of the game here by failing to resolve the activated ability of his fetchland properly?
Originally posted by Jasper König:
But Player B isn't searching his library and failing to find something, but he searches only his top four cards. Searching the top four cards and searching the library are just different things (if they weren't, Aven Mindcensor's ability wouldn't be called a ‘replacement effect’), and they're easily distinguishable from each other just by looking at the player's actions.
So, please tell me, how is Player B not breaking the rules of the game here by failing to resolve the activated ability of his fetchland properly? The ability tells him to search his library, but he does not. Sounds like GRV to me.
So, if Player B searches only the top four cards, GPE-GRV for Player B and GPE-FtMGS for Player A if he allows this to happen would be my ruling.
Originally posted by Chris Vlastelica:
So if Player B finds a land in the top 4 cards do you give him a penalty for not searching the rest of his library?
Originally posted by Chris Vlastelica:
Since you're allowed to fail to find in this case there is no CPV or GRV that I would issue.
Edited Jasper König (May 27, 2015 11:46:43 AM)
Originally posted by Nick Rutkowski:Nick is correct; please, don't work so hard to find infractions and penalties for the players. Instead, direct that energy to improving the play experience.
It is sub-optimal search, but legal.
Edited Jasper König (May 27, 2015 12:16:12 PM)
Originally posted by Nick Rutkowski:
You should only be stepping in a Comp Rel match if you are issuing a penalty.
Originally posted by Nick Rutkowski:
If you are giving information to a player about to make a sub-optimal play that is strategic advise. DO NOT DO THAT!
Originally posted by Jasper König:
You're allowed to fail to find while searching your library, but in this situation, that's just not what the player does, is it? The player is clearly only searching his top four cards. We can _see_ that he's not resolving the ability properly. How are we allowed to say that's legal? Searching the top four cards is not the same as searching the library. If I have no doubt that the former is what's happening, I can clearly say that a rule of the game is being broken. I have to step in there.
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