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Does a tournament require a winner?

Oct. 21, 2015 12:39:49 PM

Paul Johnson
Judge (Level 2 (Judge Academy))

Australia and New Zealand

Does a tournament require a winner?

A local independent TO is looking to do an invitational-style series.
From each Qualifier tournament, he needs either top 2 or (if sufficiently large) top 4, to give invites to.
There is no difference in prizes for those that win an invite - that's the prize.
They're looking at sanctioning it through WER, and are wanting to end the event midway through the play-offs; once the top 2/4 (as required has been reached).
This feels really odd to me, but I'm not sure if there's actually anything wrong with it? Can anyone confirm/deny/add input?

There's also one other potential spanner, but this is the one I'm majorly concerned about at the moment.

Oct. 21, 2015 12:46:59 PM

Sean Crain
Judge (Uncertified), Scorekeeper

Australia and New Zealand

Does a tournament require a winner?

If we use RPTQs as anything to go by (Top 4 get invite - event ends) then there shouldn't be any problems that I can see. I don't know how this is implemented in WER though. So maybe someone else can finish this one.

Subject: Does a tournament require a winner? (Tournament Operations)
From: forum-22137-13a8@apps.magicjudges.org
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Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 03:40:16 +0000

A local independent TO is looking to do an invitational-style
series.
From each Qualifier tournament, he needs either top 2 or
(if sufficiently large) top 4, to give invites to.
There is no
difference in prizes for those that win an invite - that's the
prize.
They're looking at sanctioning it through WER, and are
wanting to end the event midway through the play-offs; once the top
2/4 (as required has been reached).
This feels really odd
to me, but I'm not sure if there's actually anything wrong with it?
Can anyone confirm/deny/add input?

There's also one other
potential spanner, but this is the one I'm majorly concerned about at
the
moment.

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Oct. 21, 2015 01:14:12 PM

Dominik Chłobowski
Judge (Level 2 (Judge Academy))

Canada - Eastern Provinces

Does a tournament require a winner?

Considering your TO is already speaking to his WPN rep to get permission
for a sanctioned invitational-style series, sounds like a great opportunity
to ask all these questions. ;)

2015-10-20 23:47 GMT-04:00 Sean Crain <forum-22137-c86c@apps.magicjudges.org

Oct. 21, 2015 01:17:43 PM

Paul Johnson
Judge (Level 2 (Judge Academy))

Australia and New Zealand

Does a tournament require a winner?

Originally posted by Dominik Chlobowski:

Considering your TO is already speaking to his WPN rep to get permission
for a sanctioned invitational-style series, sounds like a great opportunity
to ask all these questions. ;)

2015-10-20 23:47 GMT-04:00 Sean Crain <forum-22137-c86c@apps.magicjudges.org

Sounds good. Thanks Dominik, I shall send him back to the WPN rep.

Oct. 21, 2015 09:12:59 PM

David Záleský
Judge (Uncertified)

Europe - Central

Does a tournament require a winner?

In WER this can be done by dropping the winners after the final round (i.e.
TOP4 or TOP8) in a same way as in case of split.

Although the tournament will still formally have a winner which will be
decided by standings after swiss portion.

2015-10-21 6:18 GMT+02:00 Paul Johnson <

Oct. 22, 2015 08:28:20 AM

Josh Stansfield
Judge (Level 2 (Judge Foundry))

USA - Pacific West

Does a tournament require a winner?

WER allows you to end an event any time, as long as you've entered all results for the current round and haven't created the next round. If you created a new round, you can delete it in order to end and submit the event.

Oct. 26, 2015 05:39:10 PM

Thomas Ralph
Judge (Level 3 (UK Magic Officials)), Scorekeeper

United Kingdom, Ireland, and South Africa

Does a tournament require a winner?

There is nothing wrong with doing this, so long as the structure is announced before the start of the event.