Originally posted by MTR 5.2:When a tournament offers a prize that can't be split - e.g., byes for a GP, or an invite to an RPTQ - then it does not match the qualifier in that paragraph (only cash and/or unopened product).
Players in the single-elimination rounds of a tournament offering only cash and/or unopened product as prizes may, with the permission of the Tournament Organizer, agree to split the prizes evenly. The players may end the tournament at that point, or continue to play. All players still in the tournament must agree to the arrangement.
Originally posted by Scott Marshall:To clarify this - we should not be involved in splits that include unsplittable prizes but if players will start to discuss them, we should not intervene?
We acknowledge that players will come to agreements among themselves, and split cash or boosters equally before playing for any remaining awards. Judges and TOs shall not facilitate such splits, but we don't have means to stop them (nor should we try).
Originally posted by Olivier Jansen:
At what point do we say an unsplittable prize is involved? For example, in an SCG tournament that only has a cash prize, are we allowed to facilitate the split, since there are also SCG “points” involved, which can't be split? What if there's a small trophy, that the players involved aren't interested in?
Originally posted by Olivier Jansen:
At what point do we say an unsplittable prize is involved? For example, in an SCG tournament that only has a cash prize, are we allowed to facilitate the split, since there are also SCG “points” involved, which can't be split? What if there's a small trophy, that the players involved aren't interested in?
Originally posted by BartÅ‚omiej Wieszok:The danger here is that players in such discussions sometimes cross the line, and connect splits to results. I prefer to step in and tell the players “What you do with your prizes after the event is up to you. Remember that exchanging anything, including prizes, for a match result, is grounds for Disqualification.”
if players will start to discuss them, we should not intervene?
Edited Matt Cooper (Dec. 21, 2015 10:52:43 AM)
Originally posted by Matt Cooper:Close - they don't have to end the tournament, they can still play it out for whatever reasons.
If the only prizes are splittable, and the T8 wants to split and end the tournament, they are allowed to do so, and the judge can facilitate this, but all players must agree to it or they play it out.
Originally posted by Scott Marshall:
I prefer to step in and tell the players “What you do with your prizes after the event is up to you. Remember that exchanging anything, including prizes, for a match result, is grounds for Disqualification.”
Did I just intervene? or perhaps I just performed a valuable service, helping those players avoid a serious problem?
d;^D
Originally posted by Matt Farney:
Sorry for the forum zombie post, but I had a follow-up question.
What is stopping the TO (with the consent of the players) from changing the payout to match the split the players desire?
For example, Prizes are 125/75/50/50 for the top 4 of an event with a qualification on the line.
The TO offers to change the prize payout to: 75/75/75/75.
All remaining players agree to this change. The tournament is played out for the invitation.
Is this an issue?
If so, based on what rule/policy?
-mf
Originally posted by Matt Farney:ummm… because Wizards has specifically stated it's not allowed?
What is stopping the TO (with the consent of the players) from changing the payout to match the split the players desire?