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Competitive REL » Post: HCE and LEC

HCE and LEC

Feb. 5, 2016 05:44:44 AM

Graham Theobalds
Judge (Uncertified)

United Kingdom, Ireland, and South Africa

HCE and LEC

My only concern with the is it HCE or LEC ideal is that we will rely heavily on the honesty of the opponent. if the opponent tells you he does not really know what happened and has no idea of the order of the cards it comes down to a judgment call every time which could cause inconsistency in rulings.

Graham

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Feb. 5, 2016 06:29:17 AM

Dan Collins
Forum Moderator
Judge (Level 5 (Judge Foundry))

USA - Northeast

HCE and LEC

There's a potential window, yes, but this is why we have judgment and an ability to investigate the situation. Remember that:

Originally posted by IPG 2.4 Philosophy:

What a player actually remembers is not a consideration when issuing this infraction, only what
information has been publicly revealed.

That should probably say “only what information is publicly available”, to mirror the line in the definition, but the philosophy is clear: NAP cannot secure a more severe infraction and fix by “forgetting” the necessary information. If, in your judgment, it is clear which card was the last one picked up, and it is clear that they were not shuffled or recordered, I would lean towards LEC..