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Erdwal Illuminator + Panharmonicon

Sept. 16, 2016 09:50:28 AM

Todd Bussey
Judge (Uncertified)

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Erdwal Illuminator + Panharmonicon

Erdwal Illuminator
Panharmonicon

Would Panharmonicon cause Erdwal Illuminator to trigger twice?

I suspect the answer is “No”, but would like confirmation.

This seems reminiscent of the interaction of Torpor Orb and any of Flourishing Defenses+creature enters with -1/-1 counters / devour+sacrifice triggers / Fathom Mage entering with +1/+1 counters, in that Torpor Orb does not affect any of those triggers even though they seemingly happen to result from a creature entering the field.

In a similar way, the clue artifact entering seemingly coincides with the trigger event of Erdwal Illuminator, but doesn't materially seem to match the condition of Panharmonicon.

Edited Todd Bussey (Sept. 16, 2016 09:52:02 AM)

Sept. 27, 2016 05:52:03 PM

Nathan Long
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Judge (Level 2 (Judge Foundry))

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Erdwal Illuminator + Panharmonicon

Hello,

No, Panharmonicon will not apply to the Illuminator's trigger. The Illuminator's ability is triggering because of investigating, not because of an artifact or creature entering the battlefield, so Panharmonicon will not apply. It doesn't matter that part of investigating involves an artifact entering, what matters is that the ability is triggering because of investigating.

Nathan Long
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