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GRV Fixes and Triggered Abilities.

Feb. 27, 2017 11:45:26 AM

Jacopo Strati
Judge (Level 5 (International Judge Program)), IJP Temporary Regional Advisor

Italy and Malta

GRV Fixes and Triggered Abilities.

During a Standard pPTQ Andy calls a judge because, in the previous turn, he forgot to put his Veteran Motorist in his graveyard (it was killed in combat because it blocked a Toolcraft Exemplar).
This is a GRV (W) and we can apply the fix "If an object is in an incorrect zone either due to a required zone change being missed or due to being put into the wrong zone during a zone change, the identity of the object was known to all players, and it can be moved with only minor disruption to the state of the game, put the object in the correct zone".
Andy, however, controls a Rot Shambler and this creature was already on the battlefiled at the time he made the mistake.

When we apply the GRV fix, can a related ability trigger or not?
In other words: a “judge fix” can be considered a “in-game action/event”?

Thanks in advance for your answers. :)


Edited Jacopo Strati (Feb. 27, 2017 12:46:44 PM)

Feb. 27, 2017 05:19:21 PM

Scott Marshall
Forum Moderator
Judge (Level 4 (Judge Foundry)), Hall of Fame

USA - Southwest

GRV Fixes and Triggered Abilities.

When we apply fixes, with or without simple backups, we often step through game actions; we would undo triggers that occurred if we back up to before the trigger, and we allow triggers to happen when we apply partial fixes.

Note, however, that Andy has to remember his Rot Shambler's trigger - the judge should not be the one pointing that out.

d:^D

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