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You are the only judge at a Limited GPT. Andy calls you to the table and says: “Last turn Nina attacked with those two creatures.” He is pointing at a tapped Lightning Shrieker and a tapped Zurgo Bellstriker. “She dashed the Zurgo, and then forgot to shuffle the Shrieker and return the Zurgo to hand, just saying go.” You ask some questions and find out Andy has drawn a card for his turn, played Anticipate and was in the middle of casting a creature when he noticed Nina did something wrong. After a brief investigation you conclude no cheating has happened. What do you do?

Edited Josh Stansfield (May 15, 2015 02:22:22 PM)

Nina's infraction is GPE-missed trigger-warning (for missing a normally detrimental trigger).
Andy has committed no infraction and receives no penalty. (IPG:'FtMGS penalties are never issued to players who did not control the ability')

Remedy: Since these are delayed triggered abilities that change the zone of an object, we place the abilities on the stack either the next time a player would gain priority, or when a player would gain priority a the beginning of the next phase, Andy's choice.

This is not a GRV because it is covered by another infraction
There isn't a ‘partial fix’ per se because this isn't a GRV, though there is a remedy specified by the IPG
We don't rewind the game because there is a specific remedy to apply and a GRV has not been committed.

Note: There is a similarly-worded partial fix that refers to objects that were changing zones and went to the wrong zone. The philosophy of that partial fix would be that since the objects did not change zones, we would not ‘correct’ the gamestate now (as the object failed to change zones rather than moving to the wrong one). However, since the error was missing a trigger that changes the zone, we still resolve the trigger rather than looking to this partial fix.

NAP - GPE Missed Trigger, Warning. AP gets to choose whether it resolves now or later, for each trigger.

AP - Nothing. Continue playing.

“If the triggered ability is a delayed triggered ability
that changes the zone of an object, resolve it. For these two types of abilities, the opponent chooses whether to
resolve the ability the next time a player would get priority or when a player would get priority at the start of the
next phase. These abilities do not expire and should be remedied no matter how much time has passed since they
should have triggered.”

Are they both delayed triggered abilities?

I don't think the dragon is, it's just a trigger that happens during the end step.

I believe we have two GPE-MT warnings being issued to Nina. These are separate infractions discovered at the same time and they do not have the same root cause. Andy doesn't receive any penalty.

These are both delayed zone-change trigger abilities, so Andy will have the choice whether to resolve them the next time a player receives priority or the first time a player would get priority at the beginning of the next phase.

Looks to me to be GPE-MT with a Warning for Nina. We have two delayed zone change triggers, so we ask the Andy if he would like this ability to go on the stack now or the next time Nina would receive priority in the next phase. No penalty issues for Andy

Warning(s) for Nina. But how many? The IPG states that multiple infractions discovered at the same time results in only applying the most severe penalty if the root cause is the same (on phone, so no direct reference). Is “the endstep began” a suitable root cause? If so, it's one penalty. Otherwise, both infractions would result in separate warnings.

Remedy for the dragon is to allow Andy to put it on the stack, his choice. The dashed creature must be resolved, as it's a delayed trigger which includes a zone change. Andy can chose to resolve it the next time a player would gain priority or at the beginning of the next phase before a player would gain priority.

We have two missed triggers. Are they detrimental? Yes. This means that we have two infractions that warrants a Warning. The IPG in section 1.3 states that:

Originally posted by IPG 1.3:

Separate infractions committed or discovered at the same time are treated as separate penalties, though if the root cause is the same, only the more severe one is applied.

Resolving the same thing wrong multiple times is considered the same root cause. Missing the same trigger multiple times times is considered the same root cause. Finding out during a deck check that you have marked sleeves and only presented 59 cards is not the same root cause.

Nina missed two triggers that should have triggered at the same time. Two different triggers, with different actions and different sources. Different partial fixes as well. The only common thing is that both triggers would trigger at the same time. This would all point towards giving two Warnings. But, under Missed Triggers in the IPG there's this line:

IPG 2.1
Triggered abilities are common and invisible, so players should not be harshly penalized when forgetting about one.

Giving Nina two Warnings in this situation would make the next Warning she gets for missing a trigger a Game Loss instead. This is a bit too harsh, and I would therefore give Nina one Warning for missing the two triggers. The partial fixes would be having Andy choose if Zurgo is bounced right now or at the beginning of the next phase. For the Lightning Shrieker, Andy chooses whether or not to put the trigger on the stack, and does so now.

Edited Espen Skarsbø Olsen (May 19, 2015 03:44:12 AM)

Thank you all for participating in the discussion. As many of you noticed there is actually a little more going on than you'd might think at first glance. Lets get to it…

There are in fact two missed triggers and we will need to tackle each one separately and even a little differently:
The Zurgo Bellsmasher's Dash is a delayed trigger that causes a zone change. This kind of trigger will resolve without using the stack, but Andy gets to choose whether this will happen now or at the beginning of the next phase, in this case that would be the combat phase. As per the IPG:

If the triggered ability is a delayed triggered ability that changes the zone of an object, resolve it. For these two types of abilities, the opponent chooses whether to resolve the ability the next time a player would get priority or when a player would get priority at the start of the next phase.

The Lightning Shrieker's ability is a normal missed trigger. And even though it causes a zone change, does not fall under the same remedy as a delayed zone change trigger. Here Andy can choose if he wants the trigger to be put on the stack or leave the shy dragon in play. If he chooses to put it on the stack it will go to the bottom, under the creature currently being cast. As per the IPG:

If the triggered ability isn’t covered by the previous two paragraphs, the opponent chooses whether the triggered ability is added to the stack. If it is, it’s inserted at the appropriate place on the stack if possible or on the bottom of the stack.

There are two infractions, even though both happen at the same time, do not share a root cause. This description is reserved for when an error occurs and infractions chain off of it. Espen Skarsbø Olsen puts it really well in the first part of his post:

Nina missed two triggers that should have triggered at the same time. Two different triggers, with different actions and different sources. Different partial fixes as well. The only common thing is that both triggers would trigger at the same time. This would all point towards giving two Warnings.

And that is where we can stop analysing this scenario. There are two triggers that are missed. They have a slightly different remedy but are both generally detrimental. Two different warnings for ‘Game Play Error - Missed Trigger’ are in order.