Edited Jose Miguel Sanchez Navarro (Jan. 28, 2016 08:28:10 AM)
Originally posted by Mark Mc Govern:
The only error is not revealing the card. The reveal isn't needed to prove that the action was legal. The fix I believe is “Reveal the hand” and carry on with a Warning. The number of “Excess or Unverified Cards” being zero in this case. This also happily fits the philosophy of “giving the opponent sufficient knowledge and ability to correct the error so that it cannot generate advantage.”
Originally posted by Dan Collins:
I support Mark's solution and reasoning. This is HCE because the error
cannot be fixed with publicly available information - we don't know which
card in hand to reveal - but there's no possibility that this card
shouldn't have been drawn - we weren't supposed to verify any
characteristics of this card in order to draw it. Intuitively, the simplest
fix is to reveal the entire hand, and HCE supports that solution.
Originally posted by Marc DeArmond:Nothing. The player failed to reveal a card, trigger never fired.
What's going to happen when we see a hand of all land or all spells?
Originally posted by Marc DeArmond:
This seems to indicate the new fix for a failure to reveal with Keranos, God of Storms in play would be “reveal the hand” and you get no triggers, where previously it would have been “play on.”
What's going to happen when we see a hand of all land or all spells?
Originally posted by IPG:Nissa's ability requires that you verify that the card should go to your hand, instead of the battlefield; since that can't be corrected by only publicly available information, we apply this remedy - reveal the hand, the opponent chooses one card, that card is shuffled into the random portion of the library.
…opponent selects a number of cards equal to the number of excess or unverified cards. Those cards are returned to their original zone.