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Would this be considered a Missed Trigger?

March 16, 2018 09:06:59 PM

Sam Sprague
Judge (Uncertified)

USA - Northeast

Would this be considered a Missed Trigger?

Salutations fellow judges,

Here’s the situation (REL = Competitive)
The NAP controls a Nezahal, Primal Tide on the battlefield, the AP casts Fumigate, the NAP then responds by casting Negate targeting Fumigate. After Negate resolves, is it too late for the NAP to claim the Nezahal triggered ability or has the NAP missed the trigger by then?



Additionally, I request that you (the reader and potential responder) back up your answer with quotes from the IPG please.

Thank you :)
Sincerely, Sam S.

Edited Sam Sprague (March 16, 2018 09:07:55 PM)

March 16, 2018 09:18:23 PM

Perry Kraker
Judge (Level 2 (Judge Foundry))

USA - Midatlantic

Would this be considered a Missed Trigger?

Great question Sam!
I do not believe so. When looking at whether a trigger has been missed or not, its important to always ask, “Could the trigger still be on the stack?” We consider a trigger to be missed when certain conditions are met, per the IPG Missed Trigger Section below. The Draw trigger would be considered missed if the turn moved forward, the AP player cast another Sorcery or Creature etc.

A triggered ability that requires its controller to choose targets (other than ‘target opponent’), modes, or other choices made when the ability is put onto the stack: The controller must announce those choices before they next pass priority.
A triggered ability that causes a change in the visible game state (including life totals) or requires a choice upon resolution: The controller must take the appropriate physical action or acknowledge the specific trigger before taking any game actions (such as casting a sorcery spell or explicitly taking an action in the next step or phase) that can be taken only after the triggered ability should have resolved. Note that passing priority, casting an instant spell or activating an ability doesn’t mean a triggered ability has been forgotten, as it could still be on the stack.
• A triggered ability that changes the rules of the game: The controller must acknowledge the trigger or prevent an opponent from taking any resulting illegal action.
• A triggered ability that affects the game state in non-visible ways: The controller must make the change known by the first time the change has an effect on the visible game state.

March 16, 2018 10:07:15 PM

Milan Majerčík
Judge (Level 2 (Judge Academy)), Scorekeeper

Europe - Central

Would this be considered a Missed Trigger?

What Perry said. Eventhough the Nezahal's trigger is on the stack above Fumigate, after the Fumigate is removed from the stack by Negate, the trigger is still there. It all depends on the following course of action.

If AP tries to perform a sorcery-speed action, NAP must inform them that the trigger is still waiting to resolve. If NAP does not do that, only then you can safely say that the trigger is missed.

March 16, 2018 10:16:05 PM

Scott Marshall
Forum Moderator
Judge (Level 4 (Judge Foundry)), Hall of Fame

USA - Southwest

Would this be considered a Missed Trigger?

For an ‘O’fficial answer, I'll just agree with Perry and Milan, for the reasons they cited. :)

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