Edited Loïc Hervier (March 13, 2014 02:32:00 AM)
Originally posted by Loïc Hervier:
Although I agree with everybody above about the Out-of-Order Sequencing of Nigel's actions, I also agree with Andrew: Nigel missed his chance to resolve the Heroic trigger on Staunch-Hearted Warrior. Per the definition of the Missed Trigger infraction: Nigel “didn't demonstrate awareness of the trigger’s existence the first time that it would affect the game in a visible fashion“ because it is a ”triggered ability that causes a change in the visible game state (so Nigel) must (…) make it clear what the action taken (is) before taking any game actions (…) that can be taken only after the triggered ability should have resolved.”
I would have allowed Nigel to perform the physical action for his trigger in Out-of-Order Sequencing, but only if he had "demonstrated awareness“ of that trigger before - or at the very least, while - resolving his spell, but not after. Just saying something like ”I gonna find a dice in a second“ before untapping the Hero would have been enough…
IPG 2.1 - Missed Triggers
The Out-of-Order Sequencing rules (MTR section 4.3)
may also be applicable, especially as they relate to batches of actions or resolving items on the stack in an improper
order.
Edited Talin Salway (March 13, 2014 01:47:56 PM)
A triggered ability that causes a change in the visible game state (including life totals) or requires a choice upon resolution: The controller must take the appropriate physical action or make it clear what the action taken or choice made is before taking any game actions (such as casting a sorcery spell or explicitly moving to the next step or phase) that can be taken only after the triggered ability should have resolved.Here, Savage Surge untapping the card is clearly a game action that can only occur after the point when the heroic trigger should have resolved.
The Out-of-Order Sequencing rules (MTR section 4.3) may also be applicable, especially as they relate to batches of actions or resolving items on the stack in an improper order.
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