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2HG and Origins Seeded Packs

July 11, 2015 03:37:11 PM

Josiah O'Neal
Judge (Uncertified)

USA - Southwest

2HG and Origins Seeded Packs

So a question myself and another judge can't find an answer for:

The 7 Card seeded pack from the Origins Sealed packs leaves us with a total of 7 packs, but not the full quota of cards. Do we have the players open the seeded pack plus 4 full boosters, or 4 packs of their choosing, presenting 3?

Obviously we'd normally just treat the seeded as one of the 6, with the option to open, but since it's one of 7, we're kind of lost, and need to fire this event in a couple hours.

Thanks much for any help with this one.

July 11, 2015 03:43:30 PM

David de la Iglesia
Judge (Uncertified)

Europe - East

2HG and Origins Seeded Packs

From the Magic Origins Prerelease Instructions
<http://wpn.wizards.com/sites/wpn/files/attachements/740_b12326_001_lr.pdf>

Two-Headed Giant Sealed Deck—Each team of two players receives two Magic
Origins Prerelease Packs of his or her choice (while supplies last) to
build decks (players may use cards from either pack in their decks; players
may choose different Planeswalker Packs).

//DLI

Edited David de la Iglesia (July 11, 2015 03:45:11 PM)

July 11, 2015 03:44:13 PM

Dominik Chłobowski
Judge (Level 2 (Judge Academy))

Canada - Eastern Provinces

2HG and Origins Seeded Packs

To the best of my knowledge, each team should be opening 2 prerelease
packs, ending up with 12 boosters and 2 seeded packs, no? =)

2015-07-11 16:38 GMT-04:00 Josiah O'Neal <

July 11, 2015 03:51:03 PM

Josiah O'Neal
Judge (Uncertified)

USA - Southwest

2HG and Origins Seeded Packs

The problem is that in a normal 2hg with pre-release packs, each player would open 4 packs, presenting 2 unopened packs to their opponents, because a proper 2HG sealed pool is 8 packs. MTR 9.6 for details.

So, with this in mind, does the 7 card seeded pack “count” as a full pack for the purposes of this event? Do they open 4 boosters and a seeded pack, or 4 total boosters including the seeded pack containing fewer cards than normal?

July 11, 2015 03:55:19 PM

David de la Iglesia
Judge (Uncertified)

Europe - East

2HG and Origins Seeded Packs

The prerelease instructions override the MTR, same as Fact Sheets do for
other events. Each player in a team gets a Prerelease pack, then both
players build each a 40-card deck out of the mixed pool of cards from the
two packs.

//DLI

July 11, 2015 06:59:13 PM

Christian Genz
Judge (Level 2 (UK Magic Officials)), Scorekeeper

United Kingdom, Ireland, and South Africa

2HG and Origins Seeded Packs

Josiah and note that the MTR explicitely says the 8 booster packs for 2HG are just a recommendation. (and opening 4 packs and presenting the closed ones sounds way more like a local store rule than anything official anyways :D )

July 11, 2015 11:48:13 PM

Dominik Chłobowski
Judge (Level 2 (Judge Academy))

Canada - Eastern Provinces

2HG and Origins Seeded Packs

It's a local store rule based on a misunderstanding that I'm pretty sure
leads to an illegal unsanctionable prerelease.

2015-07-11 20:00 GMT-04:00 Christian Genz <