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Garruk's Wild Speaker - SILVER

July 1, 2013 12:23:47 PM

Michael Shiver
Judge (Uncertified)

USA - Midatlantic

Garruk's Wild Speaker - SILVER

Originally posted by Justin Miyashiro:

I really think you're going to have a hard sell if you try to explain that to the players when Abel could simply reveal the Wildspeaker, now making it known to all players.
There's no real reason to explain to the players how you would apply a different remedy to a different situation unless they specifically ask about it. All that's necessary is an explanation of what you're actually going to do. Going from the scenario as it's described, Nick is the only one who knows for sure whether or not Garruk Wildspeaker is in his hand, so the application and explanation of the remedy won't take into account whether or not it exists.

July 2, 2013 05:20:11 PM

Patrick Vorbroker
Forum Moderator
Judge (Level 3 (Judge Academy)), Scorekeeper

USA - Midatlantic

Garruk's Wild Speaker - SILVER

It's that time again! Below you will find the solution to this week's scenario. Be sure to check back tomorrow for our next installment of the Knowledge Pool.


Abel has committed GPE-Game Rule Violation for not putting the spell he declared onto the stack. He should be given a warning, Nick will receive a warning for Failure to Maintain Game State, and the game will be rewound to the moment before Abel declared Garruk.

(This includes returning a card at random from Nick's hand to the top of his library, retapping anything he untapped in his untap step, retapping the 2 swamps Abel untapped, untapping the 2 forests and 2 swamps Abel used to pay for his spell, and returning the incorrect Garruk to his hand.)

A few things to note here:
1) A few people mentioned simply swapping the Garruk in play for the one in hand. In doing so you would be applying a partial fix to this situation. There are only four partial fixes outlined in the IPG, and this falls under none of them. Therefore you would be deviating from the policy that guides us, which we only may do in the case of significant and exceptional circumstances or when a situation has no policy available. Neither of those apply here. The bottom line; don't do this!

2) The root infraction in this case is when Abel put the wrong card on the stack, not when he untapped his lands. This is solidified further when he immediately ‘activates’ Garruk Wildspeaker's +1 ability. Rewinding to the land untap would be only a partial rewind, which we don't do.

Congratulations to everybody who got this one right, and thanks to all for continuing to have reasonable, thought-provoking discussions backed by the IPG and MTR. That's what we're all about here at the Knowledge Pool!