Originally posted by IPG:

Gives play advice or reveals private information to players who have sat for their match.
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Examples
B. A spectator points out the correct play to a player who had not solicited the information.

Originally posted by Alex de Bruijne:

I'd probably go with the solution Mark suggests.
But the description matches the criteria for outside assitance word for word

Originally posted by IPG:

Gives play advice or reveals private information to players who have sat for their match.
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Examples
B. A spectator points out the correct play to a player who had not solicited the information.

Why do I feel so reluctant to match loss Sam?
I'm not sure and will keep a close eye on this thread.

Edited Francesco Scialpi (May 20, 2019 04:51:47 AM)

Edited Àre Maturana (May 20, 2019 06:37:11 AM)

Originally posted by Paul Heidenreich:

Would you intervene, if a player overpays one of his spells and handout a GRV?
To me this does not feel like an infraction, because the result is legal and players usually do not announce floating mana, if it is irrelevant. (Which is fine be my, only if it is irrelevant for the gamestate)

Originally posted by Martin Cuchet:

What if having one more untapped land during opp
turn is beneficial to AP ? What if this tapped land is the one missing to
play spells during main 2 ?

I think it should be ruled as OA unconditionally because spending manas is
a play advice.

Originally posted by Dustin De Leeuw:

Is floating mana or overtapping mana “private information”?

Edited Eli Meyer (May 20, 2019 10:41:01 AM)

Originally posted by Eli Meyer:

Originally posted by Dustin De Leeuw:

Is floating mana or overtapping mana “private information”?
Comp rules 106.4a: “If any mana remains in a player's mana pool after mana is spent to pay a cost, that player announces what mana is still there.”

Philosophically I think this error should be treated as failing to announce Status Information, with a CPV issued if and when the miscommunication causes and error, but a strict technical reading of rules and documents seems to point to overtapping being a GRV unless the mana is announced.

Edit: oddly, the MTR lists mana pools as free, not status, information. I’m not sure whether that overrides the comp rules requirement to announce, though.
Edited Eli Meyer (Today 05:41:01 PM)

Originally posted by Dustin De Leeuw:

There is a requirement to announce for sure, but that still doesn't make any of this scenario private information. Issuing a penalty for Outside Assistance to Spectator Sam doesn't only feel wrong, it is wrong ^^ My comment wasn't supposed to answer what the player did wrong, it was geared towards Alex and Martin to assure them this is not and should not be Outside Assistance at all.

I'll gladly follow the debate about what to do to the players and their game, as I find this discussion interesting. let's just not get carried away by Sam, because that part fo the discussion is not very interesting at all: thank him for his vigilance and kindly ask him that next time he sees an error being committed, he pauses the game and calls a judge instead of directly informing the players of their mistake.