Edited Jean-François DURMONT (Oct. 17, 2013 03:23:19 AM)
Originally posted by Eric Paré:
Anton should be informed that he can always request Oracle text from a judge for cards in languages that he can't read just so he can be 100% sure what the card does. Natalie needs to be cautioned to pay closer attention to her opponent's questions before she answers them.
Edited Talia Parkinson (Oct. 17, 2013 12:48:28 PM)
Originally posted by Aric Parkinson:Why Anton? Natalie is the owner of the azourious charm, and is being asked a question about how the charm functions by Anton. Did you just get the names mixed up?Eric ParéIf you believe that Anton misrepresented the card text, shouldn't you be issuing a CPV rather than a GRV?
Anton should be informed that he can always request Oracle text from a judge for cards in languages that he can't read just so he can be 100% sure what the card does. Natalie needs to be cautioned to pay closer attention to her opponent's questions before she answers them.
Originally posted by Austin Brown:Yeah, got the names scrambled. Sorry about that.
Why Anton? Natalie is the owner of the azourious charm, and is being asked a question about how the charm functions by Anton. Did you just get the names mixed up?
Originally posted by Giorgio Maldarizzi:but Natalie drew 5 for her Sphinx's Revelation…
Since the identity of the card is known, and it's not passed a turn, or events like drawing cards and manipulating library occurred
Edited Christian Genz (Oct. 17, 2013 05:19:18 PM)
Edited Giorgio Maldarizzi (Oct. 17, 2013 05:37:07 PM)
Edited Alex Zhed (Oct. 18, 2013 06:31:13 AM)
Originally posted by Alex Zhed:I like that you mentioned it is derived information. A lot of people I know answered it a free information, but oracle text is considered derived.
Natalie answers “Yep” to a question “Bounce it?”.
Illegal: Natalie is misrepresenting derived information (I'd assume here that she misrepresented Oracle text).
Riki HayashiNatalie falsely answered a derived information question about her azourious charm. When Antony asks “Bounce it?”, he is asking if the spell is supposed to bounce the warleader. Natalie doesn't necessarily need to answer derived information, but since she chose to do so, she needed to answer it truthfully. Since she did not, that is the first point of error.
I'm seeing a lot of calls for CPV. Just curious what specifically was said that constitutes CPV and why.
Originally posted by Austin Brown:Does “Bounce it?” necessarily mean that Natalie was asking for oracle text? Furthermore, is answering “yes” to that question necessarily false?
Natalie falsely answered a derived information question about her azourious charm. When Antony asks “Bounce it?”, he is asking if the spell is supposed to bounce the warleader. Natalie doesn't necessarily need to answer derived information, but since she chose to do so, she needed to answer it truthfully. Since she did not, that is the first point of error.