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July 19th IPG upgade

July 12, 2013 10:23:12 AM

Vincent Roscioli
Judge (Uncertified)

USA - Midatlantic

July 19th IPG upgade

Originally posted by Carlos Navarrete Granado:

2nd question is regard to the fix you would apply in this case, but as follow up question, if the offense is not categorized as DEC, then why should you apply the fix for DEC? or is the fix for GRV the one being applied?

Since this is a Game Play Error that does not fall into any of the other categories (since it “normally” would be DEC, but is specifically defined not to be), it falls back to being a GRV. This means we apply the remedy from GRV (rewinding if possible, placing a random card from the player's hand on top of their library with no shuffle in most cases).

July 12, 2013 12:28:14 PM

Lyle Waldman
Judge (Uncertified)

Canada - Eastern Provinces

July 19th IPG upgade

Originally posted by Carlos Navarrete Granado:

Scott Marshall
Those aren't specific answers to your questions, Lyle, but I'll confess that I'm not sure what your first question is asking about. The 2nd question? That remedy has not changed.

I think he is asking about what infraction category (if any) would this case fall into (drawing an extra card after having the opponent acknowledge to that draw).

Indeed. Sorry if my question was unclear, this is the question I was trying to ask. Basically, if I see this happen, and I go up to the players at the table, what penalty (not remedy, the remedy is pretty clear, I'm specifically asking about the penalty) should I give them, and what explanation should I give for said penalty? Is it just GRV? Or PCV? Or is there something I missed? Based on the post directly above this one, I presume it's GRV, so I guess I have my answer (unless the post above this one is incorrect, in which case I'd like further clarification).

Edited Lyle Waldman (July 12, 2013 12:32:06 PM)