As
The Mimeoplasm enters the battlefield there are 10 cards on all graveyards including
Triskelion and
Lord of Extinction.
How many counters will the plasm enter the battlefield with?
I see arguments for 11 and 13.
Basically, the question is when do we check Lord of extinction's P/T - before or after it's been exiled.
There is Sutured Ghoul who obviously has 2 linked abilities and therefore definitely checks information after the cards have been exiled.
There's rule 608.2g:
If an effect requires information from the game (such as the number of creatures on the battlefield), the answer is determined only once, when the effect is applied. If the effect requires information from a specific object, including the source of the ability itself or a target that’s become illegal, the effect uses the current information of that object if it’s in the public zone it was expected to be in; if it’s no longer in that zone, or if the effect has moved it from a public zone to a hidden zone, the effect uses the object’s last known information. See rule 112.7a. If an ability states that an object does something, it’s the object as it exists—or as it most recently existed—that does it, not the ability.On the other hand this rule explains how an instant/sorcery spell or an activated ability resolves and is not applicable here. Also, the plasm's ability expects to find all the exiled cards in exile since it has exiled them itself. And static abilities never use ‘last known information’.
I have not found the rule in CR which explains the interaction in this specific situation. Where should I look? What is the rule and what is the correct answer?
Edited Arman Gabbasov (Oct. 23, 2014 11:28:27 AM)