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Thought Reflection and Breathstealer's Crypt

Dec. 30, 2015 10:09:18 PM

Dan Collins
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Judge (Level 5 (Judge Foundry)), Scorekeeper

USA - Northeast

Thought Reflection and Breathstealer's Crypt

You control a Thought Reflection and a Breathstealer's Crypt.



Originally posted by Breathstealer's Crypt:

If a player would draw a card, instead he or she draws a card and reveals it. If it's a creature card, that player discards it unless he or she pays 3 life.

When you would draw for turn, you choose to apply the Breathstealer's Crypt replacement effect first, followed by the Thought Reflection replacement effect. What is the final series of actions you take? Does rule 614.11b apply, and if not, why not? Once Thought reflection makes the action “Draw a card, Draw a card”, can Breathstealer's Crypt apply to either of those two events?

Edited Dan Collins (Dec. 30, 2015 10:10:34 PM)

Jan. 1, 2016 12:40:55 PM

Nathan Long
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Judge (Level 2 (Judge Foundry))

USA - Southwest

Thought Reflection and Breathstealer's Crypt

Hi,

This is the rule that applies:

614.11b If an effect would have a player both draw a card and perform an additional action on that card, and the draw is replaced, the additional action is not performed on any cards that are drawn as a result of that replacement effect.

The Crypt wants to do something to the card you draw (reveal it, then maybe do something based on what you reveal), but since that draw is replaced by the Reflection, the effect from the Crypt is not performed on any of those draws. By applying the Crypt first, then the Reflection, you won't reveal either of the cards drawn, and neither draw will be affected by the Crypt's replacement effect.

Nathan Long
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